SEP 16 2018 - VK NATIONAL NEWS BROADCAST ON VK1WIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------* THE BEST NEWS YOU'LL GET ALL WEEK Oh... and to contact us with your news because If It Matters To You It Matters To Us! Email nationalnews@wia.org.au http://www.wia.org.au click news in member area & submit your audio TWITTER http://twitter.com/VK1WIA Please... If you are only submitting text and not audio, NEVER send just links & url's but write your story as you would expect to hear it being read back and then when you upload audio also email us the txt version. ---------------------------------------------------------------------* NATIONAL NEWS FOR WEEK COMMENCING SEP 16 2018. IN OUR 23rd YEAR OF NON STOP NEWS “Celebrating Amateur Radio’s Contribution to Society”. THIS & MORE IN THIS EDITION OF NEWS FROM THE WIRELESS INSTITUTE OF AUSTRALIA 2018 AND FOR WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 16 ---------------------------------------------------------------------* RD CONTEST ITEM BY CONTEST MANAGER VK4SN Apolgies but this is an 'audio' only news item naming this years winners. Sometime over this weekend written results will be available on http://www.wia.org.au/members/contests/rdcontest/ DISCUSSION POINT Hello, I’m Geoff Emery, VK4ZPP, and I’ve been thinking. I was impressed this week to see the WIA posting news from the IARU Region 3 meeting in Korea. Often this type of involvement is overlooked when the membership renewal arrives and we start to think about the home budget and the value we get from being a member. In the great scheme of regulation and advocacy, the International Amateur Radio Union is an important part of maintaining consistency in international planning spectrum usage for us amateurs. With the World Administrative Conference around the corner, in 2019, there is much negotiation and burning of midnight oil in preparation. Not the least of that is the fact that many sectors of the user groups are pressing for greater access to RF and regulators are trying to accommodate the various claims and it all should mesh. One of the biggest demands for bandwidth in the microwave bands is the exponential expansion with the coming of the internet of Things (IoT) and the impending release of the 5G mobile standards. Then there is the matter of compatibility of service requirements between users of HF radio spectrum. Already as the NBN progresses its rollout amateurs are reporting interference from internet equipment radiation into amateur station equipment. The fact that we amateurs are primary users of particular segments should ensure that we are protected and faults such as this are quickly remediated. Then think back a couple of weeks and we have the instructions to US Coast Guard vessels to minimise the use of led lights because of the interference they are causing to electronic systems on board. Ambient noise levels have been increasing because of what has been dubbed “electronic smog ” as switch mode power supplies, solar pv regulators, led lights and on and on. Ask a consistent HF operator what the bands are like and then what the noise level at their QTH has become. It is not a pretty picture. As poor as the compliance is to the standards that should help remove this electronic trash, just think how much worse it would be if there was no attempt at control. If there was no ITU oversight of standards and co-ordination and the manufacturers and service providers could just do what the best money return would allow, just think, there would be little standardisation until perhaps a monopoly won the technology war. So as amateurs pool their expertise in conferences like the one in Seoul we should all be thankful that we do have a system and an input in the protection of our recreation. Without the dedication of these people in negotiating on an international platform, we would be without the bands, the modes and the operating privileges we enjoy. I’m Geoff Emery and that’s what I think....how about you? (thanks to QNEWS for that item) ---------------------------------------------------------------------* INTERNATIONAL NEWS With thanks to IARU, RSGB, SARL, Southgate AR Club, ARRL, Amateur Radio Newsline, RAC, NZART & the World Wide sources of the WIA. NEW ZEALAND Technical consultation: Adding new usages to the General User Radio Licence - Short Range Devices in frequencies below 30 MHz. Radio Spectrum Management has released a consultation document concerning increased use in portable electrical appliances and mobile devices. These devices have driven interest in wireless charging in what they do and how they work. This technology has two components that require use of radio spectrum below the 30 MHz frequency range. Wireless power transfer system Inductive loop system The consultation document identifies that these components fall within the definition of short range devices and are covered by the General User Radio Licence (GURL-SRD). It would mean that the existing technical conditions in the GURL SRD would need to be modified to explicitly allow the use of wireless power transmission and inductive loop systems. KOREA IARU Region 3 Conference. The 17th IARU Region 3 Regional Conference, hosted by the Korean Amateur Radio League (KARL), took place September 10-14 in the PJ Hotel in Seoul, Korea KARL reported that to promote the hobby an Entry Level License (ELL) has been introduced as the fourth class of amateur radio license in Korea. Obtaining this license requires participating in eight hours of tuition introducing amateur radio to beginners. License holders will be allowed to operate on VHF/UHF bands with up to 10 watts output power. CRAC reports the population of radio amateurs in China is expanding steadily and the number of amateur radio operators now stands at: 130,115 and China believes there are about 80,000 active station licences with their highest license class permitting 1 kW on HF. IARU-R3 conference documents are available at http://iaru-r3.org/the-17th-triennial-conference-of-the-iaru-region-3-documents/ There were 74 attendees at the International Amateur Radio Union Region 3 Conference in Seoul, Korea. All delegates and observers from the Region 3 member societies assembled for the opening plenary session and worked its way through the extensive agenda. One area of the agenda that stands out are the many band planning items that included: Harmonize 2m APRS MARTS Interim IARU Region 3 Band Plan Coordination between the IARU Regions on VHF, UHF and MW Bands 15m Band Satellite Planning IARU has also announced that the theme for World Amateur Radio Day, April 18, 2019, will be:- “Celebrating Amateur Radio’s Contribution to Society”. The Administrative Council (AC) of the International Amateur Radio Union held its annual in-person meeting on September 8 and 9, in Seoul, Republic of Korea, immediately prior to the IARU Region 3 Conference. The AC is responsible for the policy and management of the IARU and consists of the three IARU international officers and two representatives from each of the three IARU regional organizations After consideration of several possible alternatives the theme for World Amateur Radio Day, April 18, 2019, was confirmed as “Celebrating Amateur Radio’s Contribution to Society”. Attending the meeting were IARU President Tim Ellam, VE6SH/G4HUA; Vice President Ole Garpestad, LA2RR; Secretary David Sumner, K1ZZ; regional representatives Don Beattie, G3BJ, Hans Blondeel Timmerman, PB2T, Reinaldo Leandro, YV5AM, Ramón Santoyo, XE1KK, Gopal Madhavan, VU2GMN, and Peter Young, VK3MV. Present as observers were regional executive committee members Jay Bellows, K0QB, Ken Yamamoto, JA1CJP, and Don Wallace, ZL2TLL. SWEDEN Reduced ham radio power limit from November 1 Representatives of Sweden's national amateur radio society, the SSA, have met with the communications regulator, the P.T.S. The agenda included the follow-up to the delegation decision and information on the new exemption regulation to be decided this month. (September) In the autumn of 2017, PTS opened a supervisory issue on how SSA manages delegated duties. PTS has said its satisfaction with the measures that SSA has taken and will take to improve its routines. The audit was abolished in mid-July. SM6CNN and SM5PHU were part of a delegation meeting. Initially, SSA presented the Hams vision and view on the amateur radio and community benefit, which was well received by the Authority, BUT, No Entry Level certificate SSA raised the issue of an alternative certificate class. PTS declared that no new certificate class would be introduced. Reduced power limit from November 1 PTS will proceed with decision on the proposed reduction of power limit to 200 watts. There has been no objection to the objections made by several referral bodies. As a reason for the new regulation, it is stated that you want to implement PTS spectrum strategy. SSA demanded an explanation of what the Authority would like to achieve, but no further motivation was given. During the meeting, the SSA also asked what criteria should apply when assessing license applications for higher impact. The general answer is that license applications are assessed in accordance with the Electronic Communications Act, but no further details are currently available. SSA was somewhat wondering how applications are being assessed at the moment. When the new regulation is decided, PTS will inform about application procedures and fees. The processing time for license applications is currently reported to 42 days. Source SSA https://tinyurl.com/SwedenSSA BELGIUM Reverse-Polarity Sunspot Group Does Not Belong to Cycle 25, Observatory Says The Royal Observatory of Belgium’s Solar-Terrestrial Centre of Excellence (STCE) has asserted that the reverse polarity sunspot group 2720 observed in late August belongs to the current solar cycle — Cycle 24 — and does NOT represent the start of Cycle 25. “Because of its reversed polarity, some news services claimed sunspot group 2720 was possibly one of the first groups of new solar Cycle 25,” the Centre said. “This is simply not true, in view of its very low 8° latitude. The next solar Cycle 25 sunspot group should have both reversed magnetic polarity and much higher heliographic latitude, typically 20° to 40° from the equator. Only two tiny, short-lived numbered sunspot groups are currently assigned to new solar Cycle 25, sunspot group 2620 in December 2016 and 2694 in January 2018.” USA Ham radio at World Maker Faire The ARRL reports amateur radio will be represented at 9th Annual World Maker Faire in New York City, September 22-23, that is expected to attract 90,000 attendees The Garden School (K2GSG) and Hall of Science Amateur Radio clubs in New York City will join forces this month to put Amateur Radio on display during the 9th annual World Maker Faire NYC at the New York Hall of Science in Queens. Last year’s World Maker Faire NYC drew some 90,000 attendees. The Garden School’s ham radio club advisor and science teacher John Hale, KD 2 LPM, said participating youngsters will introduce Amateur Radio and mentor attendees in constructing small, electronic “Maker Key” Morse code oscillators. The project helped Garden School win a blue ribbon at last year’s Maker Faire. Visiting radio amateurs will be able to build a tape-measure Yagi for satellite or terrestrial use. In cooperation with the Hall of Science ARC, radio amateurs will attempt to make satellite contacts with the tape-measure Yagis as a demonstration, Hale said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------* HAM RADIO OPERATIONAL NEWS - IT'S A CONTACT SPORT Oct 6 – WW - Oceania DX contest Oct 11-12 - WW - SELCALL ALE, not so much a contest but an exercise. 2019 Aug 17-18 WW ILLW visit: https://illw.net/ -------------- The first successful exchange of messages between Australia and the United Kingdom via wireless in 1918 is marked every 5 years by contact between the Dragon Amateur Radio Club in Wales and the Hornsby Amateur Radio Club VK2, together with the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society also in VK2. This year, 100 hundred years after the original experimental transmission between the two nations, the experiment is about to occur again – this time on the 22nd of September as a re-enactment of the original Morse Code message and a broader celebration. With this being a 100-year anniversary, the Ku-ring-gai Municipal Council is planning to host a celebration that will include displays in the nearby St. Andrew’s Church hall as well as an amateur radio station operated by the Hornsby and District Amateur Radio Club with the callsign VK 100 MARCONI. At the same time in Wales, the Dragon Amateur Radio club will operate its own HF station from the site of the Marconi transmitter there, using the call sign GB 2 VK. (GB TO VK) The day’s activities will include replication of the original message sent from Wales by Australian Prime Minister Billy Hughes to Ernest Fisk, who was at home at his wireless station in Wahroonga.   The Wireless institute of Australia has been celebrating all month and hams have been allocated state- and territory-based special event call signs for the duration of the observance. The call signs have the prefix “VI” and the suffix “MARCONI” with the appropriate number in between designating each state or territory. THROUGH THE DX WINDOW POLAND, SP. Special event stations SN100, with suffix's IP, JH, JP, PS and PW are QRV until November 11 to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Poland's independence. QSL via bureau. SAN MARINO, T7. Three special event stations will be active from the Republic of San Marino on 15th - 16th September. Look for the callsigns T 71 A, T 71 B and T 71 C which will be transmitting from towers on the three peaks of Monte Titano in San Marino. This event is being held in conjunction with a local civil protection exercise. QSLs go via T7 0 A. MEDIA WATCH AMSAT-UK tweeted: September edition of Satmagazine has an article on the Goonhilly Earth Station by Matthew Cosby. Download the free magazine PDF from http://www.satmagazine.com/download.php (amsat-na) (text edtion only) WW SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS --- ARDF WIA ARDF COORDINATOR VK3WWW Jack vk3www@wia.org.au Team USA took home 10 medals from the just-concluded 2018 Amateur Radio Direction Finding (ARDF) World Championships, the highest medal count since the US team began participating in the international event 20 years ago. The 19th World ARDF Championships took place September 2 – 8 near the resort city of Sokcho in Korea's Gangwon Province. Hidden transmitters were scattered in forests encompassing 1,000 acres or more. No word yet to the WIA on how Team VK faired. This marked the second time that ARDF Team USA had competed in Korea. Before traveling to the competition, a weekend training camp for Team USA members and other ARDF enthusiasts took place August 10 – 12 at Mt. Pinos in the Los Padres National Forest of California. (arrl) WW SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS ATV arvideonews.com hamradiotube.com youtube.com qdg.org.au Introduction to Amateur Digital Television Jim KH 6 HTV has released a new book titled Introduction to Amateur Digital Television This free book pulls together a lot of information previously scattered in over 40 application notes. Download the PDF from https://kh6htv.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/an-45-dtv-book.pdf KH6HTV https://kh6htv.com/ WORLD WIDE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS --- DMR http://vkdmr.info/ https://brandmeister.network/?page=repeaters The 70cm VK5RDM DMR repeater is now running at the LMARC clubroom in Murray Bridge on 439.850 VK5RDM is fully operational as a Brandmiester DMR repeater TG 50 5 for TS 1 TG 50599 on TS 2 number 505505 (vk7tw/vk5hel) WW SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS - FINAL FRONTIER https://ariss.batc.tv/ (under test) There's a lot going on above us! BUT, satellites are more at risk from fast solar winds than a major space storm according to a UK-US study published in the Journal Space Weather. Researchers investigating the space weather risks to orbiting satellites calculated electron radiation levels within the Van Allen radiation belts. This ring-doughnut-shaped zone wraps around the Earth, trapping charged particles. Geostationary orbit lies inside the Van Allen radiation belts. The study, which analysed years of satellite data, found that electron radiation levels at geostationary orbit could remain exceptionally high for 5 days or more, even after the solar wind speed had died down. As a result, electronic components on satellites could charge up to dangerously high levels and become damaged. https://phys.org/news/2018-09-satellites-fast-solar-major-space.html#jCp (SouthGate) Jupiter has an extra magnetic pole NASA's Juno spacecraft has discovered something extraordinary about Jupiter. There is an extra magnetic pole near the giant planet's equator, dubbed "The Great Blue Spot" by researchers who identified it. Jupiter's unexpected magnetic morphology is a sign that strange things may be happening deep beneath her cloud tops. Visit Spaceweather.com for the full story Radio Amateurs Receive Images from Chinese Lunar Satellite Some earthbound radio amateurs and sky watchers have received images from a tiny Chinese satellite now orbiting the moon. In May, China launched the DSLWP-A and DSLWP-B microsatellites — also known as Longjiang-1 and Longjiang-2 — into a lunar transfer orbit, although Longjiang-1 was apparently lost in the process and likely remains in deep Earth orbit. They were deployed as secondary payloads with the Quequiao relay satellite as part of the Chang’e 4 mission to the far side of the moon. DSLWP stands for “Discovering the Sky at Longest Wavelengths Pathfinder.” The satellite is testing low-frequency radio astronomy and space-based interferometry, and while it carries Amateur Radio and educational payloads, no transponder is aboard. The Chang’e 4 mission will be the first-ever attempt at a soft landing on the far side of the moon. The Chang’e-4 lander and rover are scheduled to launch in December. The Harbin Institute of Technology (BY 2 HIT) developed and built the DSLWP spacecraft and is overseeing that mission. The microsat also carries optical cameras from Saudi Arabia. An open tele command protocol allows radio amateurs to take and download images. The spacecraft transmits on 70 centimetres (435.400/436.400 MHz) with 250/500 bps GMSK using 10 kHz wide FM single-channel data, with concatenated codes or JT4G. JT4 uses four-tone FSK, with a keying rate of 4.375 baud; the JT4G sub-mode uses 315 Hz tone spacing and 1,260 Hz total bandwidth. WW SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS --- INTERNET, THE HAMS DOMAIN. Bendigo Amateur Radio and Electronics Club invites you to 'Bendigo Internet of Things Network', a presentation by Dr Simon Egerton of La Trobe University, and Chris Rowlands of the City of Greater Bendigo. La Trobe University and the City of Greater Bendigo are teaming up to trial a new 'Internet of Things Network' in Bendigo. By installing open source ‘gateways’ in several locations around Bendigo, the project will enable anyone in the local community to connect to the IoT, to gather their own data. The IoT is a giant network of connected “things”, including mobile phones, weather stations, machines and electronic devices – basically any physical object that features an IP address for internet connectivity. It enables users to gather data on literally anything – for example, weather patterns, footpath usage, wildlife movements, traffic congestion and water distribution. Driven out of La Trobe’s new Technology Innovation Lab in Bendigo, this will be the first open source IoT network established in regional VK3. The evening commences at 7.30 pm, Friday September 21st at the BAREC club room, 20 Longlea Lane, Longlea, near Bendigo. A gold coin donation would be appreciated. Tea, coffee and biscuits available. (Graeme) WW SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS --- RESCUE RADIO IARU REGION 3 Emergency Centre of Activity (CoA) frequencies 3.600, 7.110, 14.300, 18.160 and 21.360 MHz IARU Region 1 3760 7110 14300 18160 21360 kHz IARU Region 2 3750 3985 7060 7240 7275 14300 18160 21360 kHz The NSW Telco Authority and the NSW SES have launched the first agency-operated, fully MOBILE government radiocommunications site in Grafton. The cell on wheels (CoW) will provide public safety agency frontline workers with a deployable mission-critical solution for operational radiocommunications. “The CoW will provide significant support to emergency and operational response agencies as they work with communities during disasters,” NSW Telco Authority Managing Director Kate Foy explained. “It is the newest addition to the state’s supply of mobile radio assets and the latest product resulting from collaboration between the Telco Authority and NSW SES to improve frontline communications during critical incidents.” The CoW was jointly funded by NSW SES and the Critical Communications Enhancement Program (CCEP), which will increase radio coverage on the The CoW is based on an 'Iveco 4WD' platform that facilitates access to locations normally inaccessible by regular 4x4 vehicles and trailers. Where road access is not possible, the equipment is purpose built to be dismounted from the vehicle and deployed by helicopter. Read more: http://criticalcomms.com.au/content/public-safety/article/telco-authority-and-nsw-ses-launch-cow-in-grafton-162118140#ixzz5Qm4u4bjT ---------------------------------------------------------------------* REWIND Shortwave Radio Reports May Offer Best Evidence of Amelia Earhart's Fate, Group Believes. The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) believes it has the key to unlock the decades-old mystery of what happened to famed aviator Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan in their planned circumnavigation of the globe in 1937. TIGHAR's The Earhart Project analysed dozens of radio transmissions received by radio amateurs and other shortwave listeners during the frantic search to locate Earhart's plane when she did not make her scheduled arrival at Howland Island. Many theories have sprung up over the years to explain the mysterious disappearance, but a TIGHAR research paper entitled The Post-Loss Radio Signals, published by The Earhart Project, maintains that "the patterns and relationships emerging from the data show that TIGHAR has answered the 81-year-old question: 'What really happened to Amelia Earhart?'" The Earhart Project "is testing the hypothesis that Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan landed, and eventually died, on Gardner Island, now Nikumaroro in the Republic of Kiribati," its website says. In July 1937, a young teenager named Betty Klenck, listening to shortwave bands on her family's radio, intercepted and transcribed pleas for help that TIGHAR calls "a remarkable record of perhaps the last communication" from Earhart and Noonan and "leave little doubt" that the 15-year-old heard a genuine distress call from the pair, transmitted from the aircraft Electra. Klenck's notebook, discovered in 2000, inspired TIGHAR's effort to catalogue all reception reports. TIGHAR analysed nearly 60 other reception reports made in the wake of Earhart's failure to arrive on Howland Island. The vast majority, TIGHAR said, came from government or commercial operators as well as "licensed amateurs" working for the US Interior Department on Howland and Baker Islands, listening on Earhart's primary, harmonically related frequencies of 3,105 and 6,210 kHz. TIGHAR contends that higher-order harmonics of the primary frequencies enabled the "accidental" reception of Earhart's transmissions at greater distances, because those higher-frequency signals would be more prone to ionospheric propagation. Reports came from the Pacific and the continental US, TIGHAR said, with Earhart reporting her plane down "on an uncharted island" that was "small, uninhabited." According to accounts, the radio transmissions became progressively more desperate, with Earhart reporting that Noonan was injured and subsequently delirious. The commander of the US Coast Guard vessel Itasca, which was involved in the search, discounted the contemporary radio reception reports, saying that all available land areas had been searched. He expressed doubt that Earhart and Noonan made any radio transmissions after their plane disappeared on July 2, 1937. Social Scene 2018 Sept 21-23 VK4 Central Highlands AR Club AGM Lake Maraboon (TARC) Sep 28-Oct 1 VK4 Cardwell Gathering (TARC) Oct 14 VK3 Yarra Valley Amateur Radio Group HamFest (vk3kqt/vk3cnw) "Hi, this is Craig VK3WAR on behalf of the Yarra Valley Amateur Radio Group. Join us on Sunday October the 14th for our annual Hamfest at the Gary Cooper Pavillion in Yarra Glen. Doors open from 10:00AM till 2:00PM. Entrance fee of $7:00 includes Tea and Coffee. For table bookings phone Colin VK3CNW on 0423 535988. Hope to see you there on Sunday the 14th of October." Oct 28 vk3 Ballarat Amateur Radio Group HamFest (vk3kqt) Nov   11  VK5 - Adelaide Hills Amateur Radio Society HamFest Nov 17 VK7 - VK7Hamfest Miena Community Centre (vk7wi) Nov 18 VK3 - The Rosebud RadioFest (vk3pdg) 2019 Social Scene May 3 - 6 VK4 - Claireview Gathering (tarc) September 2019- Scandinavian YL Radio Operators Convention will be in Norway LA8FOA is your contact Ingrid lullen55@gmail.com 2020 Social Scene ALARAMEET Bendigo (vk5yl) Submitting news items A reminder when supplying HamFest info we obviously can't plug commercial traders "on air", but we at the WIA will put your supporters in this text edition "no worries." If you would like to submit news items for inclusion in the VK1WIA broadcasts, please email your item in text to nationalnews@wia.org.au and don't JUST send url's links, but take the time to pen YOUR contribution. 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